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The grey squirrel doesn’t deserve its reputation
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a***@aol.com
2015-08-15 11:31:14 UTC
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Malcolm Ogilvie
2015-08-15 14:31:59 UTC
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Angus continues to scrape the barrel in his increasingly frantic attempts to protect the
grey squirrel, an introduced and invasive pest which has caused a massive decline in red
squirrels, by quoting a heavily biassed and inaccurate letter. However, as it has been
published in a newspaper with a circulation of only about 12,000 (and that was for the
second half of 2014 so will be less now), its impact will be very limited, just as weill
Angus's posting the URL here.

This comment to the letter shows a different POV:

"Grey Squirrels like signal crayfish are pests and should be killed on sight, in fact it
is THE LAW that one must KILL Signal Crayfish, it should be law that you must KILL grey
squirrels on sight as well, the Grey's have killed all of our Red's and must be
exterminated."

Of course, Angus is so besotted with the grey squirrel that he has even tried to convince
himself - because he certainly can't convince anyone else - that the archaeological record
of the red squirrel in Britain, demonstrating that it crossed the landbridge between
Europe and Britain after the last ice age, is false, thus coming close to libelling the
professional archaeologists who excavated the different sites where remains have been
found. And he's also tried to pretend that the landbridge didn't exist, or if it did, it
broke up thousands of years earlier than it actually did, or that it was uncrossable
because of barriers like rivers. However, he has yet to explain how so many other land
mammals managed to reach Britain over the landbridge, along with man and thousands of
plants and invertebrates, but not the red squirrel. If anyone can be bothered to read the
threads in this ng, you can enjoy for yourselves the tangles that Angus gets into as he
tries to wriggle away from the actual facts.

Malcolm
a***@aol.com
2015-08-15 20:25:00 UTC
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On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 15:31:59 +0100, Malcolm Ogilvie
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http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/opinion/letters/13596439.The_grey_squirrel_doesn___t_deserve_its_reputation/
Angus continues to scrape the barrel in his increasingly frantic attempts to protect the
grey squirrel, an introduced and invasive pest which has caused a massive decline in red
squirrels, by quoting a heavily biassed and inaccurate letter. However, as it has been
published in a newspaper with a circulation of only about 12,000 (and that was for the
second half of 2014 so will be less now), its impact will be very limited, just as weill
Angus's posting the URL here.
"Grey Squirrels like signal crayfish are pests and should be killed on sight, in fact it
is THE LAW that one must KILL Signal Crayfish, it should be law that you must KILL grey
squirrels on sight as well, the Grey's have killed all of our Red's and must be
exterminated."
So the Greys have killed all of our Reds? What imbecile thinks that -
and you quote it as a comment you support :-)) You're off your head
Malcolm.
Post by Malcolm Ogilvie
Of course, Angus is so besotted with the grey squirrel that he has even tried to convince
himself - because he certainly can't convince anyone else - that the archaeological record
of the red squirrel in Britain, demonstrating that it crossed the landbridge between
Europe and Britain after the last ice age, is false, thus coming close to libelling the
professional archaeologists who excavated the different sites where remains have been
found. And he's also tried to pretend that the landbridge didn't exist, or if it did, it
broke up thousands of years earlier than it actually did, or that it was uncrossable
because of barriers like rivers. However, he has yet to explain how so many other land
mammals managed to reach Britain over the landbridge, along with man and thousands of
plants and invertebrates, but not the red squirrel. If anyone can be bothered to read the
threads in this ng, you can enjoy for yourselves the tangles that Angus gets into as he
tries to wriggle away from the actual facts.
You're out of date, Malcolm, and quoting fools like the one above in
shared ignorance.
Malcolm Ogilvie
2015-08-16 06:42:37 UTC
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On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 15:31:59 +0100, Malcolm Ogilvie
Post by Malcolm Ogilvie
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http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/opinion/letters/13596439.The_grey_squirrel_doesn___t_deserve_its_reputation/
Angus continues to scrape the barrel in his increasingly frantic attempts to protect the
grey squirrel, an introduced and invasive pest which has caused a massive decline in red
squirrels, by quoting a heavily biassed and inaccurate letter. However, as it has been
published in a newspaper with a circulation of only about 12,000 (and that was for the
second half of 2014 so will be less now), its impact will be very limited, just as weill
Angus's posting the URL here.
"Grey Squirrels like signal crayfish are pests and should be killed on sight, in fact it
is THE LAW that one must KILL Signal Crayfish, it should be law that you must KILL grey
squirrels on sight as well, the Grey's have killed all of our Red's and must be
exterminated."
So the Greys have killed all of our Reds? What imbecile thinks that -
and you quote it as a comment you support :-)) You're off your head
Malcolm.
And Angus, as he does so often, descends to personal insults as a substitute for proper
discussion.
Post by a***@aol.com
Post by Malcolm Ogilvie
Of course, Angus is so besotted with the grey squirrel that he has even tried to convince
himself - because he certainly can't convince anyone else - that the archaeological record
of the red squirrel in Britain, demonstrating that it crossed the landbridge between
Europe and Britain after the last ice age, is false, thus coming close to libelling the
professional archaeologists who excavated the different sites where remains have been
found. And he's also tried to pretend that the landbridge didn't exist, or if it did, it
broke up thousands of years earlier than it actually did, or that it was uncrossable
because of barriers like rivers. However, he has yet to explain how so many other land
mammals managed to reach Britain over the landbridge, along with man and thousands of
plants and invertebrates, but not the red squirrel. If anyone can be bothered to read the
threads in this ng, you can enjoy for yourselves the tangles that Angus gets into as he
tries to wriggle away from the actual facts.
You're out of date, Malcolm, and quoting fools like the one above in
shared ignorance.
And Angus, yet again, though unsurprisingly, produces not one jot of evidence for his
ludicrous claims about Doggerland, and nor has he ever explained how so many land mammals,
not to mention thousands of plants and invertebrates, reached Britain after the last ice
age. This is because, although he rejects the obvious, that there was a landbridge for
thousands of years, he can't come up with a plausible alternative to how they did so. Yet,
he's demonstrated wondrous powers of invention when it comes to his nonsense stories about
how thousands of years ago red squirrel remains reached the caves in southern Britain
where they've been found, involving, according to him, massive sealevel changes and floods
which, unfortunately for him, left no trace behind them that any archaeologist,
geomorphologist or geologist has been able to find.

Like I said, he gets into tangles :-)
a***@aol.com
2015-08-21 22:45:37 UTC
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 07:42:37 +0100, Malcolm Ogilvie
Post by Malcolm Ogilvie
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On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 15:31:59 +0100, Malcolm Ogilvie
Post by Malcolm Ogilvie
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http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/opinion/letters/13596439.The_grey_squirrel_doesn___t_deserve_its_reputation/
Angus continues to scrape the barrel in his increasingly frantic attempts to protect the
grey squirrel, an introduced and invasive pest which has caused a massive decline in red
squirrels, by quoting a heavily biassed and inaccurate letter. However, as it has been
published in a newspaper with a circulation of only about 12,000 (and that was for the
second half of 2014 so will be less now), its impact will be very limited, just as weill
Angus's posting the URL here.
"Grey Squirrels like signal crayfish are pests and should be killed on sight, in fact it
is THE LAW that one must KILL Signal Crayfish, it should be law that you must KILL grey
squirrels on sight as well, the Grey's have killed all of our Red's and must be
exterminated."
So the Greys have killed all of our Reds? What imbecile thinks that -
and you quote it as a comment you support :-)) You're off your head
Malcolm.
And Angus, as he does so often, descends to personal insults as a substitute for proper
discussion.
Only an idiot like you would reference a comment that says "the greys
have killed off all the reds".
Post by Malcolm Ogilvie
Post by a***@aol.com
Post by Malcolm Ogilvie
Of course, Angus is so besotted with the grey squirrel that he has even tried to convince
himself - because he certainly can't convince anyone else - that the archaeological record
of the red squirrel in Britain, demonstrating that it crossed the landbridge between
Europe and Britain after the last ice age, is false, thus coming close to libelling the
professional archaeologists who excavated the different sites where remains have been
found. And he's also tried to pretend that the landbridge didn't exist, or if it did, it
broke up thousands of years earlier than it actually did, or that it was uncrossable
because of barriers like rivers. However, he has yet to explain how so many other land
mammals managed to reach Britain over the landbridge, along with man and thousands of
plants and invertebrates, but not the red squirrel. If anyone can be bothered to read the
threads in this ng, you can enjoy for yourselves the tangles that Angus gets into as he
tries to wriggle away from the actual facts.
You're out of date, Malcolm, and quoting fools like the one above in
shared ignorance.
And Angus, yet again, though unsurprisingly, produces not one jot of evidence for his
ludicrous claims about Doggerland, and nor has he ever explained how so many land mammals,
not to mention thousands of plants and invertebrates, reached Britain after the last ice
age. This is because, although he rejects the obvious, that there was a landbridge for
thousands of years, he can't come up with a plausible alternative to how they did so. Yet,
he's demonstrated wondrous powers of invention when it comes to his nonsense stories about
how thousands of years ago red squirrel remains reached the caves in southern Britain
where they've been found, involving, according to him, massive sealevel changes and floods
which, unfortunately for him, left no trace behind them that any archaeologist,
geomorphologist or geologist has been able to find.
Like I said, he gets into tangles :-)
No Malcolm. Get yourself a decent education by reading up late
research and perhaps read "The New Wild" which give umpteen references
to the folly of conservation zealotism. Get yourself out of the past
and into the future.
Malcolm Ogilvie
2015-08-22 07:07:08 UTC
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 07:42:37 +0100, Malcolm Ogilvie
Post by Malcolm Ogilvie
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On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 15:31:59 +0100, Malcolm Ogilvie
Post by Malcolm Ogilvie
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http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/opinion/letters/13596439.The_grey_squirrel_doesn___t_deserve_its_reputation/
Angus continues to scrape the barrel in his increasingly frantic attempts to protect the
grey squirrel, an introduced and invasive pest which has caused a massive decline in red
squirrels, by quoting a heavily biassed and inaccurate letter. However, as it has been
published in a newspaper with a circulation of only about 12,000 (and that was for the
second half of 2014 so will be less now), its impact will be very limited, just as weill
Angus's posting the URL here.
"Grey Squirrels like signal crayfish are pests and should be killed on sight, in fact it
is THE LAW that one must KILL Signal Crayfish, it should be law that you must KILL grey
squirrels on sight as well, the Grey's have killed all of our Red's and must be
exterminated."
So the Greys have killed all of our Reds? What imbecile thinks that -
and you quote it as a comment you support :-)) You're off your head
Malcolm.
And Angus, as he does so often, descends to personal insults as a substitute for proper
discussion.
Only an idiot like you would reference a comment that says "the greys
have killed off all the reds".
Post by Malcolm Ogilvie
Post by a***@aol.com
Post by Malcolm Ogilvie
Of course, Angus is so besotted with the grey squirrel that he has even tried to convince
himself - because he certainly can't convince anyone else - that the archaeological record
of the red squirrel in Britain, demonstrating that it crossed the landbridge between
Europe and Britain after the last ice age, is false, thus coming close to libelling the
professional archaeologists who excavated the different sites where remains have been
found. And he's also tried to pretend that the landbridge didn't exist, or if it did, it
broke up thousands of years earlier than it actually did, or that it was uncrossable
because of barriers like rivers. However, he has yet to explain how so many other land
mammals managed to reach Britain over the landbridge, along with man and thousands of
plants and invertebrates, but not the red squirrel. If anyone can be bothered to read the
threads in this ng, you can enjoy for yourselves the tangles that Angus gets into as he
tries to wriggle away from the actual facts.
You're out of date, Malcolm, and quoting fools like the one above in
shared ignorance.
And Angus, yet again, though unsurprisingly, produces not one jot of evidence for his
ludicrous claims about Doggerland, and nor has he ever explained how so many land mammals,
not to mention thousands of plants and invertebrates, reached Britain after the last ice
age. This is because, although he rejects the obvious, that there was a landbridge for
thousands of years, he can't come up with a plausible alternative to how they did so. Yet,
he's demonstrated wondrous powers of invention when it comes to his nonsense stories about
how thousands of years ago red squirrel remains reached the caves in southern Britain
where they've been found, involving, according to him, massive sealevel changes and floods
which, unfortunately for him, left no trace behind them that any archaeologist,
geomorphologist or geologist has been able to find.
Like I said, he gets into tangles :-)
No Malcolm. Get yourself a decent education by reading up late
research and perhaps read "The New Wild" which give umpteen references
to the folly of conservation zealotism. Get yourself out of the past
and into the future.
And Angus once again cannot produce one jot of real evidence for his claims about
Doggerland. But then the evidence he craves doesn't exist.
a***@aol.com
2015-08-22 10:19:32 UTC
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On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 08:07:08 +0100, Malcolm Ogilvie
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 07:42:37 +0100, Malcolm Ogilvie
Post by Malcolm Ogilvie
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On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 15:31:59 +0100, Malcolm Ogilvie
Post by Malcolm Ogilvie
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http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/opinion/letters/13596439.The_grey_squirrel_doesn___t_deserve_its_reputation/
Angus continues to scrape the barrel in his increasingly frantic attempts to protect the
grey squirrel, an introduced and invasive pest which has caused a massive decline in red
squirrels, by quoting a heavily biassed and inaccurate letter. However, as it has been
published in a newspaper with a circulation of only about 12,000 (and that was for the
second half of 2014 so will be less now), its impact will be very limited, just as weill
Angus's posting the URL here.
"Grey Squirrels like signal crayfish are pests and should be killed on sight, in fact it
is THE LAW that one must KILL Signal Crayfish, it should be law that you must KILL grey
squirrels on sight as well, the Grey's have killed all of our Red's and must be
exterminated."
So the Greys have killed all of our Reds? What imbecile thinks that -
and you quote it as a comment you support :-)) You're off your head
Malcolm.
And Angus, as he does so often, descends to personal insults as a substitute for proper
discussion.
Only an idiot like you would reference a comment that says "the greys
have killed off all the reds".
I see you don't disagree with my description of you.
Post by Malcolm Ogilvie
Post by a***@aol.com
Post by Malcolm Ogilvie
Post by a***@aol.com
Post by Malcolm Ogilvie
Of course, Angus is so besotted with the grey squirrel that he has even tried to convince
himself - because he certainly can't convince anyone else - that the archaeological record
of the red squirrel in Britain, demonstrating that it crossed the landbridge between
Europe and Britain after the last ice age, is false, thus coming close to libelling the
professional archaeologists who excavated the different sites where remains have been
found. And he's also tried to pretend that the landbridge didn't exist, or if it did, it
broke up thousands of years earlier than it actually did, or that it was uncrossable
because of barriers like rivers. However, he has yet to explain how so many other land
mammals managed to reach Britain over the landbridge, along with man and thousands of
plants and invertebrates, but not the red squirrel. If anyone can be bothered to read the
threads in this ng, you can enjoy for yourselves the tangles that Angus gets into as he
tries to wriggle away from the actual facts.
You're out of date, Malcolm, and quoting fools like the one above in
shared ignorance.
And Angus, yet again, though unsurprisingly, produces not one jot of evidence for his
ludicrous claims about Doggerland, and nor has he ever explained how so many land mammals,
not to mention thousands of plants and invertebrates, reached Britain after the last ice
age. This is because, although he rejects the obvious, that there was a landbridge for
thousands of years, he can't come up with a plausible alternative to how they did so. Yet,
he's demonstrated wondrous powers of invention when it comes to his nonsense stories about
how thousands of years ago red squirrel remains reached the caves in southern Britain
where they've been found, involving, according to him, massive sealevel changes and floods
which, unfortunately for him, left no trace behind them that any archaeologist,
geomorphologist or geologist has been able to find.
Like I said, he gets into tangles :-)
No Malcolm. Get yourself a decent education by reading up late
research and perhaps read "The New Wild" which give umpteen references
to the folly of conservation zealotism. Get yourself out of the past
and into the future.
And Angus once again cannot produce one jot of real evidence for his claims about
Doggerland. But then the evidence he craves doesn't exist.
Only for those like you who are afraid to look it up.
Malcolm Ogilvie
2015-08-22 11:44:13 UTC
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On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 08:07:08 +0100, Malcolm Ogilvie
Post by Malcolm Ogilvie
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 07:42:37 +0100, Malcolm Ogilvie
Post by Malcolm Ogilvie
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On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 15:31:59 +0100, Malcolm Ogilvie
Post by Malcolm Ogilvie
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http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/opinion/letters/13596439.The_grey_squirrel_doesn___t_deserve_its_reputation/
Angus continues to scrape the barrel in his increasingly frantic attempts to protect the
grey squirrel, an introduced and invasive pest which has caused a massive decline in red
squirrels, by quoting a heavily biassed and inaccurate letter. However, as it has been
published in a newspaper with a circulation of only about 12,000 (and that was for the
second half of 2014 so will be less now), its impact will be very limited, just as weill
Angus's posting the URL here.
"Grey Squirrels like signal crayfish are pests and should be killed on sight, in fact it
is THE LAW that one must KILL Signal Crayfish, it should be law that you must KILL grey
squirrels on sight as well, the Grey's have killed all of our Red's and must be
exterminated."
So the Greys have killed all of our Reds? What imbecile thinks that -
and you quote it as a comment you support :-)) You're off your head
Malcolm.
And Angus, as he does so often, descends to personal insults as a substitute for proper
discussion.
Only an idiot like you would reference a comment that says "the greys
have killed off all the reds".
I see you don't disagree with my description of you.
Your descent into childish insults when you can't produce the evidence requested is so
well known that it doesn't need comment.
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Post by Malcolm Ogilvie
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Post by Malcolm Ogilvie
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Post by Malcolm Ogilvie
Of course, Angus is so besotted with the grey squirrel that he has even tried to convince
himself - because he certainly can't convince anyone else - that the archaeological record
of the red squirrel in Britain, demonstrating that it crossed the landbridge between
Europe and Britain after the last ice age, is false, thus coming close to libelling the
professional archaeologists who excavated the different sites where remains have been
found. And he's also tried to pretend that the landbridge didn't exist, or if it did, it
broke up thousands of years earlier than it actually did, or that it was uncrossable
because of barriers like rivers. However, he has yet to explain how so many other land
mammals managed to reach Britain over the landbridge, along with man and thousands of
plants and invertebrates, but not the red squirrel. If anyone can be bothered to read the
threads in this ng, you can enjoy for yourselves the tangles that Angus gets into as he
tries to wriggle away from the actual facts.
You're out of date, Malcolm, and quoting fools like the one above in
shared ignorance.
And Angus, yet again, though unsurprisingly, produces not one jot of evidence for his
ludicrous claims about Doggerland, and nor has he ever explained how so many land mammals,
not to mention thousands of plants and invertebrates, reached Britain after the last ice
age. This is because, although he rejects the obvious, that there was a landbridge for
thousands of years, he can't come up with a plausible alternative to how they did so. Yet,
he's demonstrated wondrous powers of invention when it comes to his nonsense stories about
how thousands of years ago red squirrel remains reached the caves in southern Britain
where they've been found, involving, according to him, massive sealevel changes and floods
which, unfortunately for him, left no trace behind them that any archaeologist,
geomorphologist or geologist has been able to find.
Like I said, he gets into tangles :-)
No Malcolm. Get yourself a decent education by reading up late
research and perhaps read "The New Wild" which give umpteen references
to the folly of conservation zealotism. Get yourself out of the past
and into the future.
And Angus once again cannot produce one jot of real evidence for his claims about
Doggerland. But then the evidence he craves doesn't exist.
Only for those like you who are afraid to look it up.
There's nothing to look up. You have persistently failed to produce any evidence merely
wild and unsubstantiated claims.

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